An Ocean of Pain
An Ocean of Pain
An Ocean of Pain

An Ocean of Pain

Crossing an ocean is life-changing and full of painful experiences, but what you find on the other shore might be even more challenging to overcome.

Last Updated: June 22, 2022
Contributor: Meghann Shantz

Explored in this episode

  • What it takes to be the youngest female to row across the Atlantic ocean
  • Navigating through different healing modalities with a breast cancer diagnosis
  • The different types of pain we can experience: physical, mental and spiritual
  • Exploring how inflammation happens in the body
  • How anti-Inflammatory foods can support with pain management and healing

Voices in the conversation


Tori Holmes

Author of Beauty Water and Crossing the Swell, Wellness Entrepreneur

Tori Holmes

It would surprise you how agile we are as humans and how quickly we can adapt when given no other option.

Tori Holmes is a nutritionist, an author and wellness entrepreneur. In her early twenties, her spirit of adventure and her passion for life carried her through a grueling trip across the Atlantic in a 24-foot rowboat, as well as a very different but equally challenging adventure of facing a breast cancer diagnosis.

Both experiences have made her turn to alternative medicine traditions from around the world, and she found her way back to wellness by utilizing the power of self-care beyond sick care. She is now a passionate advocate for the importance of water and hydration, alternative ingredients, and the power of our own bodies on the path to wellness. Today, she is a well-being strategist, product developer and an ambassador for startup ventures in plant medicine.


Dr. Josh Axe

Doctor of Natural Medicine, Nutritionist, Chiropractor, Natural Wellness Expert

Dr. Axe

Pain is a very complex experience.

Dr. Josh Axe is a certified doctor of natural medicine (DNM), doctor of chiropractic (DC) and clinical nutritionist (CNS) with a passion to help people get healthy by empowering them to use nutrition to fuel their health. He is the bestselling author of Keto Diet and Eat Dirt.

Dr. Axe founded the natural health website, one of the top natural health websites in the world today. Its main topics include nutrition, natural medicine, fitness, healthy recipes, home DIY remedies and trending health news. His website includes a group of credentialed editors, writers and a Medical Review Board. Dr. Axe is also the co-founder of Ancient Nutrition, which provides protein powders, holistic supplements, vitamins, essential oils and more to the modern world.

In this episode, he shares how inflammation is the body’s way of triggering healing, but sometimes can become part of a chronic, unhelpful pattern in the body. Dr. Axe also offers some food-based options for managing unwanted inflammation in the body and supporting healing.

Meghann Shantz, The Host of Well Now
Meghann Shantz
The Host of Well Now

Managing Editor at Saje Natural Wellness, Meghann Shantz brings her personal story of healing and a love of storytelling to Well Now – a podcast born out of a desire to help us all discover the hidden side of health and how to achieve wellness. She draws from her experiences navigating western and alternative medicine to heal her anxiety and physical injury to connect with guests about their own stories of overcoming physical and emotional challenges.

Naturally curious and on a quest for meaning, Meghann holds space for the raw expression and authentic stories of her podcast guests, believing that our world would be better if we chose to honour other people’s journeys and processes without judgement – and believing in the power of telling your story.